{"id":5373,"date":"2017-09-09T19:05:31","date_gmt":"2017-09-10T02:05:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/?p=5373"},"modified":"2017-09-10T15:36:58","modified_gmt":"2017-09-10T22:36:58","slug":"toee-tentatice-crpgboard-game-comparison","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/archives\/5373","title":{"rendered":"ToEE: Tentative CRPG\/Board Game Comparison"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Although it took me a while to figure out how to activate the level-up interface, my party is level 2 now. I&#8217;ve also found a second exit to the complex underneath the moat house, though a pentagonal room with a large pentagram built into the floor. I&#8217;m starting to think that the moat house <em>is<\/em> the Temple of Elemental Evil, or at least that the moat house is a disguise built over one of its entrances, like the innocent-looking phone booths that conceal the entrances to CONTROL and the Ministry of Magic. Maybe the mission to clear out the moat house will take the entire rest of the adventure, like finding the map in <em>Curses<\/em>. I could be wrong &#8212; there&#8217;s still nothing particularly elemental about the place, so it could just be one of those random dungeons that litters the world of Greyhawk, devoid of context or history. But either way, those bandits were taking their lives in their hands by using it as their hideout. It was only a matter time before the ogre or the gnolls living below their feet decided to go hunting, and found some prey very close at hand.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/stack\/archives\/5354\">I started playing this game to compare it to my experiences with the <em>Temple of Elemental Evil<\/em> Adventure System board game<\/a>, and for the most part, the two games haven&#8217;t had any similarity at all. I mean, they&#8217;re not even in the same campaign setting. The board game version is set in the Forgotten Realms instead of Greyhawk, and substitutes the town of Red Larch for the village of Hommlet. Presumably someone involved in the board game&#8217;s creation felt it would be better to stick with the setting that&#8217;s more familiar to most players. The final boss of the original seems to be a demon &#8212; at least, a demon has been mentioned as part of the backstory &#8212; while in the board game, it was a dragon. Perhaps this change was made to placate anxious parents, D&amp;D having a rocky history with satanic panics. Or perhaps it was just an excuse to ship the game with a dragon mini in the box. Who knows?<\/p>\n<p>And, of course, the board game gave us elemental stuff from the get-go. The CRPG has been remarkably reluctant to fulfill the promise of its title. The idea of an adventure themed around elemental magic was the main appeal of the game to me, when I picked it up back in the day, but so far it&#8217;s just been Undistinguished Fantasy Village Adventure. Of course, the mechanics of the board game kind of forced things in that regard. There, monsters are drawn from a deck of cards, and apart from some gradual modification by adding adding tougher monsters over the course of the campaign, it&#8217;s the same deck no matter what dungeon you&#8217;re exploring. The result is that you don&#8217;t get thematically-appropriate monsters like giant frogs in the swampy areas and skeletons on the old battlefield. You get a mix of cultists, gnolls, hobgoblins, doppelgangers, and firebats no matter where you are.<\/p>\n<p>And the deeper reaches of the moat house are starting to remind me of that, as things start to turn into the mischmasch dungeon that formed almost the entirety of the board game. Particularly when I run into a familiar monster, like the Gnoll Archers that caused us so much trouble before.<\/p>\n<p>While I&#8217;m talking about the board game, there&#8217;s one other semi-coincidence I&#8217;d like to note. The CRPG allows you to bring a maximum of five characters in your initial party. (Three additional slots are reserved for any NPCs you pick up.) For simplicity&#8217;s sake, I initially created a party of the four basic D&amp;D character types: fighter, wizard, cleric, thief. After my initial failures, I decided to fill the fifth slot with another fighter-type, but for variety&#8217;s sake, I made this one a Ranger. It took me a matter of days to realize that I had recreated the board game&#8217;s party roster.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Although it took me a while to figure out how to activate the level-up interface, my party is level 2 now. I&#8217;ve also found a second exit to the complex underneath the moat house, though a pentagonal room with a large pentagram built into the floor. I&#8217;m starting to think that the moat house is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[59,590,589],"class_list":["post-5373","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-board-games","tag-dungeons-dragons","tag-temple-of-elemental-evil"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5373","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5373"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5373\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5375,"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5373\/revisions\/5375"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5373"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5373"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5373"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}