{"id":717,"date":"2010-02-20T17:25:53","date_gmt":"2010-02-20T22:25:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/archives\/717"},"modified":"2016-11-07T16:32:45","modified_gmt":"2016-11-08T00:32:45","slug":"cotab-information","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wurb.com\/stack\/archives\/717","title":{"rendered":"CotAB: Information"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Unlike with <em>Pool of Radiance<\/em>, I started off <em>Curse of the Azure Bonds<\/em> with full access to the documentation.  This still leaves me with less information than a set of <em>D&amp;D<\/em> books would provide.  For example, there&#8217;s an area-effect spell called &#8220;Ice Storm&#8221;.  What area does it affect?  The manual here doesn&#8217;t say.  I think it&#8217;s roughly equivalent to the Fireball spell (which, indoors, extends three tiles in all directions around the point you cast at), but it&#8217;s hard to tell exactly, because you only get to see its effects on the monsters that don&#8217;t resist it, and the monsters I&#8217;m dealing with at this point have pretty good magic resistance.<\/p>\n<p>Or consider the Drow arms and armor.  I know from experience in third-edition <em>D&amp;D<\/em> that Drow equipment melts when exposed to sunlight, and sure enough, that turns out to be the case here.  But if I defeat some Drow on the way into a cave, and I know I&#8217;m going to be spending a while exploring it, should I bother taking their stuff?  Or is the gear I already have better?  I knew I could tell how good a character&#8217;s armor is by looking at the character&#8217;s &#8220;AC&#8221; rating, but it took me a while to realize that the &#8220;THAC0&#8221; rating similarly includes the bonus on the weapon.<\/p>\n<p>This is because I&#8217;m not used to the concept of THAC0.  I played first-edition <em>D&amp;D<\/em> as a kid, and more recently played 3rd and 4th edition as an adult, but THAC0 is a second-edition concept.  My first encounter with it was in <em>Planescape: Torment<\/em>, which (bafflingly, to my eyes) treated it as one of the basic <em>D&amp;D<\/em> concepts that you&#8217;d naturally be already familiar with.  I&#8217;ve heard that it had been replaced by the concept of Base Attack Bonus, but that&#8217;s apparently not quite right, because BAB <em>doesn&#8217;t<\/em> include situational modifiers like what kind of sword you&#8217;re wielding.  I had been letting my eyes glide over that spot in the character info, assuming that it was beyond my ability to affect, much like the character stats.  Perhaps I would have noticed my error earlier if I were playing a single character instead of six.  I almost certainly would have if the game displayed figures that had changed recently in a different color, like a lot of more-recent CRPGs do.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that THAC0 is in this game at all also reveals something that I&#8217;ve been mistaken about all along: I&#8217;ve been saying that these games are based on first-edition rules.  They&#8217;re not.  I&#8217;ve tried to find some resource online that is to the first-edition rules what <a href=\"http:\/\/d20srd.org\/\">d20srd.og<\/a> is to third-edition, but to no avail.  (Which makes sense, because the 1e rules weren&#8217;t released under a public license like the 3e rules were.)  But now I know that even if I had found such a resource, it would have been wrong.<\/p>\n<p>And really, even a set of 2e core rulebooks wouldn&#8217;t have information specific to the Forgotten Realms campaign setting, and even a set of Forgotten Realms sourcebooks wouldn&#8217;t be completely accurate as a description of the rules in the computer adaptations.  GameFAQs has a nice little writeup of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gamefaqs.com\/computer\/doswin\/file\/564786\/8566\">the 2e rules for players of the computer games<\/a>, but it&#8217;s not content-specific enough answer the kinds of question I have.  So I suppose I&#8217;ll have to continue figuring things out by trial and error.  Which is how Gygax wanted players to do things anyway; early editions treat the <em>Dungeon Master&#8217;s Guide<\/em> as secret knowledge that should never fall into a the players&#8217; hands.  (A futile sentiment, since every <em>D&amp;D<\/em> group I&#8217;ve ever been in trades off DM duty to different players from time to time.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Unlike with Pool of Radiance, I started off Curse of the Azure Bonds with full access to the documentation. This still leaves me with less information than a set of D&amp;D books would provide. For example, there&#8217;s an area-effect spell called &#8220;Ice Storm&#8221;. What area does it affect? The manual here doesn&#8217;t say. 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